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Post by Midnight on Jul 11, 2018 21:14:37 GMT -5
Just Curious
Who's thinking of submitting a entry for the Character Building Open Challenge?
- Midnight
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Post by phantasm74 on Jul 12, 2018 8:48:37 GMT -5
I'll get one done after I get home from the beach Tuesday.
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Post by PMikey on Jul 14, 2018 15:35:09 GMT -5
Done did it already.
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Post by PMikey on Jul 15, 2018 18:07:12 GMT -5
I've made some small changes/edits (for one thing I forgot the blurb/elevator pitch) and I've posted the game stats for
Mutants & Masterminds 2nd Ed
Villains & Vigilantes 3.0 Mighty Protectors
Mutants & Masterminds 3rd Ed
Please note that these are not necessarily supposed to be exactly the same in each system.
Let's say that the interpretation of the character for each system was heavily influenced by the nature/feel of that system.
After going through this exercise, my dislike of Mutants & Masterminds 3rd Ed is firmly entrenched in my psyche now.
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Post by Midnight on Jul 15, 2018 19:30:27 GMT -5
So what’s your opinion of V&V 3: Mighty Protectors? You’ve made a few characters in it so your eminently qualified to give an opinion, at least as fat as character creation goes.
-Midnight
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Post by PMikey on Jul 15, 2018 22:23:50 GMT -5
I definately prefer V&V 3.0 to M&M 3rd Ed. At least as far as CharGen is concerned.
The only part that V&V dropped the ball is on skills. It needs to address this in any future versions.
But, to be fair, I was using a DC Adventures rulebook as a stand-in for the M&M rulebook (same game engine) and the layout and formatting of that book was horribLe.
So I may not be being fair to M&M 3.0.
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Post by WhiteWolf on Jul 17, 2018 23:18:06 GMT -5
I've made some small changes/edits (for one thing I forgot the blurb/elevator pitch) and I've posted the game stats for Mutants & Masterminds 2nd Ed Villains & Vigilantes 3.0 Mighty Protectors Mutants & Masterminds 3rd Ed Please note that these are not necessarily supposed to be exactly the same in each system. Let's say that the interpretation of the character for each system was heavily influenced by the nature/feel of that system. After going through this exercise, my dislike of Mutants & Masterminds 3rd Ed is firmly entrenched in my psyche now. WOW! I may have missed something with 3rd ed M&M. I really got the impression it was much the same after the first (all be it very cursory) reading. I'll have to look it over again to see what I missed. |
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Post by Midnight on Jul 19, 2018 18:05:52 GMT -5
I've made some small changes/edits (for one thing I forgot the blurb/elevator pitch) and I've posted the game stats for Mutants & Masterminds 2nd Ed Villains & Vigilantes 3.0 Mighty Protectors Mutants & Masterminds 3rd Ed Please note that these are not necessarily supposed to be exactly the same in each system. Let's say that the interpretation of the character for each system was heavily influenced by the nature/feel of that system. After going through this exercise, my dislike of Mutants & Masterminds 3rd Ed is firmly entrenched in my psyche now. WOW! I may have missed something with 3rd ed M&M. I really got the impression it was much the same after the first (all be it very cursory) reading. I'll have to look it over again to see what I missed.
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Post by Midnight on Jul 22, 2018 20:51:54 GMT -5
Hey Guys:
Well unless we get some Surprise Entries, I think its only gonna be PMikey, Phantasm 74, and well ... Me (if I can finish my entry)
So I think I should extend the deadline a little bit so I can finish mine, and if anybody else is in the same situation as I am, they can put theirs up to.
- Midnight
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Post by PMikey on Jul 23, 2018 11:21:39 GMT -5
WOW! I may have missed something with 3rd ed M&M. I really got the impression it was much the same after the first (all be it very cursory) reading. I'll have to look it over again to see what I missed.
- MidnightI think the Key word was "unnecessary". Not "radical". If anything, not radical enough to be necessary. They went out of their way to make changes to make it different from the basic D20 system they started with. I don't mind when a new edition tweaks and refines a system or fixes obvious flaws but a major overhaul like they did was completely unnecessary. Unless they lost access to the D20 Open License, in which case I understand. But don't necessarily like it. If that wasn't the case, if it wasn't broke, then they didn't need to fix it. Plus, Players and GM's that have spent countless hours creating PCs & NPCs must now all be reinvented because feats/powers they once had no longer exist or have been significantly modified. Not to mention the additional effort to adapt & modify other D20 based modern setting materials. If this was a *significant* improvement, I would endorse M&M 3.0, but things aren't really improved. As Luc said, things are "much the same", and that's my point. It's same enough that the changes they did make were unnecessary and arbitrary. They could have easily kept the game the same and just changed the few rules that needed tweaking, and I would have been very happy. Otherwise, it's just a money-grab to get people to buy all new things for the 3rd Edition materials to replace the more outdated 2nd Ed materials. Of course, in all fairness, my reference material is the DC Adventures product (which was the dry run of M&M 3rd Ed used to do their DC Universe campaign setting) so if there were significant changes between that and the official M&M 3rd Ed release, I'm not aware of them and cannot comment. |
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Post by PMikey on Jul 23, 2018 11:26:40 GMT -5
So I think I should extend the deadline a little bit so I can finish mine, and if anybody else is in the same situation as I am, they can put theirs up to. So what's the new deadline? I have no problem with the extension, BTW, just curious. |
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Post by Midnight on Jul 25, 2018 21:51:50 GMT -5
I Extended the Dead Line to July 30th at Mindnight
Hope thats O.K.
- Midnight
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Post by Midnight on Jul 30, 2018 22:03:49 GMT -5
I'm very disappointed in, and ashamed of myself right now. This whole excersize began as an attempt to Help my friend PMikey and Myself back to writing characters and fiction for superhero RPGs.
PMikey had been reading some of the fiction we had written for his last campaign. He was bemoaning how he couldn't write fiction like that anymore, I also felt much the same way, but thought it was worth a try to reawaken the fires of creativity. So I initiated this contest base on one we had done previously.
Turns out he was able to turn out he and Phantasm74 turned out two really great character concepts, complete with origin fiction. So his creative spark doesn't seem to have been that throughly extinguished after all. My on the other have is much colder, and has been for many years, all the way back to before that aforementioned last campaign. and it not just supersheros, its any genre.
Over the years I convinced myself that I wasn't any good at writing and I hate writing fiction. Truth is I love the Thought of having written ,just not Writing. I'm cripplingly, self-critical of my own efforts. I'm too grandiose in the stories I try to tell. Its Something I'll have to work on.
Its been weeks, and I only started Writing this afternoon, I spent too much time planning, researching, and trying how to understand how to Fit the character I was working on into the Vanguard City Setting we had created years ago, and very little time actually Writing.
I even extended the deadLine for the contest hoping I could make Myself complete this project. Well the new deadline is here, and I no where near finished.
I would like to congratulate PMikey and Phantasm74 for completing their entries (and way before the Deadline to boot). I will be putting up the Poll tomorrow to see which one people this is the best. I will say I wish I have been able to actually complete my entry in time, But I didn't. ( I will finish him and post his up as soon as he is finished though) and I do wish that there had been a Higher Rate Of Participation But there wasn't, And I guess there is a message in that fact itself. so than you all for you Indulgence and congratulations to the winner in advance.
- Midnight
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